FULL TRANSSCRIPTION OF THE CONFLICT THAT FINALLY DISTURBED WHOSE SIDE TRUMP AND JD VANCE ARE ON AND MOST OF ALL WHAT THEY AIM
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky actually came to the White House to sign a raw material agreement with the United States. Before the signing in the Oval Cabinet, a meeting was held between the delegations of both sides - there is the world press. Usually in such cases, mostly politenesses are exchanged, but this time the scene turned into an open dispute between Zelensky, on one hand, and US President Donald Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance, on the other.
Before that, the Ukrainian president had explained why he does not trust Vladimir Putin. Zelensky listed all agreements with the Russian ruler that failed, then the talk escalated. Here is the text of the rest of the meeting - abbreviated and translated from English.
Zelenski: Everyone was saying it at the time: He (Putin) will never get as far as attacking us. He signed this agreement but then violated the ceasefire. He attacked our population, killed people. He exchanged no prisoners either. We had a prisoner swap agreement, but he didn't. So what diplomacy are you talking about with Putin here?
Vance: I'm talking about diplomacy that will end the destruction of your country. Mr. President, with all due respect, I think it's a little disrespectful of you to come to the White House and say this to a press conference. You are forcing recruits to go to the frontline because you have problems with the lack of soldiers. You have to be thankful to the President of the United States for being willing to get involved in this conflict.
Zelenski: Have you ever been to Ukraine to know exactly what problems we have?
Vance: I've seen and heard stories. I know what's going on. You're taking people on a propaganda tour. Don't you agree that you currently have problems with the shortage of soldiers? I find it disrespectful to go into the Oval Office and attack the government for trying to prevent the destruction of your country.
Zelenski: There were many questions. And so, backward: In war, everybody has problems. Even you, but you have a nice ocean (between you and Russia). But you will feel it in the future. Thank God you will not have war. (Zelensky here hints at Trump's statement to Europe days ago that "between us and them (Ukraine) there is an ocean," considering that the United States is far from conflict and therefore Europe should take care of keeping the peace after the end of the war).
Trump: Don't tell us what we'll feel. We are trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us how to feel.
Zelenski: I am not saying that, I am just answering the questions.
Trump: You are absolutely not able to dictate to us how to feel here. We will feel very good and very strong. You are not in a very good position right now.
Zelensky tries to interrupt Trump ("Since the beginning of the war... “).
Trump: You're not in a very good position right now. Only now do you start to receive cards from us.
Zelenski: I do not play cards here, Mr. President. This is important to me, I am a president at war.
Trump: You are playing with the lives of millions of people. You are playing with world war 3. And that is very disrespectful to the country that supports you - and much more than many people said it should be.
Zelenski: I respect you a lot.
Vance: Have you thanked once during this whole meeting? In October of last year, you campaigned in favor of the opposition in Pennsylvania, but did you at least once thank the President for trying to save your country?
Zelenski: Please, the very loud talk about the war does not change anything.
Trump interrupts Zelenski: ("He doesn't talk very loudly").
Zelenski: Can I still answer this question?
Trump: No, you've already talked a lot. Your country is in big trouble, you may not win.
Zelensky: I know.
Trump: Maybe we can help you make everything right for you.
Zelenski: We have been alone since the beginning of the war. I have already thanked this cabinet for their support.
Both sides are talking at the same time.
Trump: Under our stupid former president (Joe Biden) we gave you 350 billion. US dollars for military equipment.
Zelenski: You invited me to speak. (repeat several times)
Trump: If you hadn't received our military equipment, the war would have been over in two weeks.
Zelenski: I've heard that many times. Putin said the war would end in three days.
Trump: It is difficult to do business this way.
Vance: Have you already thanked him?
Zelenski: Yes, I have already thanked the American people several times.
Vance: Accept that there are differences and let's solve them instead of speaking out to the American press when you're wrong. And we know that you are wrong.
Trump: I think it's good for the American people to see what's happening here. That's why I've let this go on for so long. You have to be thankful.
Zelenski: I am grateful.
Trump: Your people are dying, your soldiers are dying. And then you come here and say: "I don't want a ceasefire, I don't want ceasefire!" I want this, I want that (Zelenski imitates)! "Well that's right: if you can achieve a ceasefire now, then I say to you: Take this ceasefire so that no more bullets will be fired."
Zelenski: We want to end the war. But that's exactly what I told you: I want a ceasefire, but I also want guarantees. I asked people what they thought about a ceasefire.
Trump: It wasn't me, you didn't ask me. That was with a guy named Biden, who wasn't very smart. That was with Obama (former president Barack Obama).
Zelenski: That was with your president.
Trump: Obama was the one who only gave you documents. I gave you all the anti tank missiles. This was the statement at the time: Obama gave you documents/papers and Trump gave you Javelin missiles. Need to be more grateful I'll be honest with you: you have no cards in your hand at all. With us on your side you hold the cards. But without us you have nothing at all. It's going to be hard to get this deal, because attitude has to change.
Journalist asks: What will happen if Russia violates ceasefire?
Trump: What if? What if a bomb dropped on your head now? What will happen if they violate it? I don't know this. They (Russia, white. order. ) they broke it with Biden because they don't respect Biden. They have no respect for Obama. They respect me. Let me say this: Putin has experienced a lot with me, a mad witch hunt. It was all about me and Russia, Russia, Russia. Hunter Biden and the laptop it was the democrats hoax. It is possible that Putin has violated the agreements with Obama and Bush. And maybe with Biden. But not with me. He wants to make a new deal. The problem is: I have empowered you to be a tough person. But without the US, you won't be a tough guy. Your people are very brave. But either you make a deal or we're out. And if we give up, then you will fight. I don't think this will be particularly pretty. You don't hold the cards. If we seal this deal, we would be in a much better position. But you don’t act grateful at all and honestly that’s not nice. I think we've seen enough, it's a really good TV set up I think.